Friday, April 13, 2018

T'was Church greed that brought about rule of celibacy

The New York Times - Pope Francis Admits ‘Grave Errors’ in Chile Sex Abuse Cases (extracts):


ROME — Pope Francis has apologized for “grave errors” in the handling of sexual abuse cases in Chile, where he had adamantly defended a bishop accused of covering up abuse by the country’s most notorious pedophile priest.

In an extraordinary letter to the bishops of Chile, published on Wednesday, a remorseful pope then invited representatives of the abuse victims to Rome so that he could personally apologize. Francis has endured intense criticism over accusations that he had a blind spot on the issue of sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church.

A spokesman for the Chilean bishops’ conference said that some of the victims would go in the coming weeks, and that the pope would individually ask for their forgiveness. Francis in the letter also summoned the country’s 32 bishops to meet at the Vatican in May — an exceptionally large gathering of bishops — to discuss clerical sex abuse.


In the pope’s letter, which he signed on Sunday, he said that a delegation led by Archbishop Charles J. Scicluna, a Maltese prelate who has been called the Vatican’s Eliot Ness in fighting clerical sex abuse, had taken the testimony of 64 people in Santiago and New York and produced more than 2,300 pages. The result, Francis wrote, was his being “moved to write this letter.”

“As far as my role, I acknowledge, and ask you to convey faithfully, that I have made grave errors in assessment and perception of the situation, especially as a result of lack of information that was truthful and balanced,” wrote Francis, 81. “From this time I ask forgiveness to all those that I offended and I hope to do so personally, in the following weeks, in meetings that I will hold with representatives of the people who were interviewed.”

While many people admire the Pope for taking responsibility for the conduct of his priests, they ask: What should be done now?

Priests are men which in many, not just some, have a weakness, namely, to fulfil their physiological (physical) need for women. 

We should address this specific aspect of Maslow Hierarchy of Needs.


Now, based on the fact that Ecumenical meetings of the Catholic Church at the First and Second Lateran councils in 1123 and 1139 explicitly forbid priests from marrying, we should re-examine what and why it happened.

Then, there was a sinister objective by the Church, to ensure priests did not have children or wives who could make claims on property acquired throughout a priest’s life. And on the priests' demises, the Church inherited those properties. So it was all a case of greed.

Alas, that celibacy rule spread until eventually it became the norm in the Western Roman Catholic Church.

Thus, the solution is to NOW allow the RC priests the right to marry as their original predecessors prior to 1123 did, and indeed in the way priests of the Eastern Orthodox Churches today still do.


Protestant preachers and Jewish rabbis have long been encouraged to have wives though in modern times, only one at any one time, please, wakakaka.



9 comments:

  1. If you ever read louis cha, celibacy is not good enough for kaytee. Kaytee must castrate himself to achieve the highest kung fu standard.

    Kaytee is indeed malaysia version of 岳不群

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    1. you mean kaytee is 令狐沖 - tsk tsk don't be jealous lah

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    2. Careful…

      Anmokauxai can read 金庸 martial art fictions ke?

      U might ended up senjata makan tuan le!

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    3. hahahahaha......kaytee must have eat too much medicine from Najib. Too much mimpi siang may end up like that Lim Yew Hock in Aussie land

      By any chance, kaytee.......are you loved child of lim yew hock?

      https://remembersingapore.org/2012/11/13/the-curious-case-of-lim-yew-hock/



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  2. That is just your opinion, no doubt coloured by your very limited life experience.

    There are many other takes on the reasoning why the Catholic Church insists on celibacy among its ordained priests.

    Most Married men with a family will tell you that providing for , and protecting the family is a primary focus for their mental, physical and emotional energies. As well as their primary financial responsibility.

    This was an even more onerous burden in the old days in agrarian societies.

    The Catholic Church recognised this as the primary responsibility of married family men.
    And long ago decided that the Church's primary officials , it's ordained priests should not carry this burden, instead focus on their work serving Christ , and the Church.

    They are human and fallible. Along the way , many Priests including Popes have fallen to illicit secret sexual activity , even having families.
    Worst, sometimes these sexual acts are coerced , or preying on the most vulnerable members of society - children - or homosexual activity.

    But to attribute the policy if Celibacy to greed is highly prejudiced and symptomatic of Ktemoc's ignorance and narrow mind.

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    1. wonder why priests of the Eastern Orthodox Churches are allowed to marry, when both churches have the same base

      are you a RC? sorry if I offended you but even Papa has admitted to the bad situation among RC priests - don't defend the indefensible as pride goes before a fall

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    2. Various faiths requires their men of the cloths to be celibate as to dedicate the whole attention, body and soul to their religion.

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  3. Renouncing violence for all living beings, harming not even a one, you would not wish for offspring, so how a companion?
    Wander alone like a rhinoceros.

    One whose mind is enmeshed in sympathy for friends and companions, neglects the true goal. Seeing this danger in intimacy.
    Wander alone like a rhinoceros.

    Like spreading bamboo, entwined, is concern for offspring and spouses. Like a bamboo sprout, unentangling.
    Wander alone like a rhinoceros.

    Abandoning offspring, spouse, father, mother, riches, grain, relatives, and sensual pleasures altogether.
    Wander alone like a rhinoceros.

    Having let go of passion, aversion, delusion;
    having shattered the fetters;
    undisturbed at the ending of life.
    Wander alone like a rhinoceros.

    -Khaggavisana Sutta-

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  4. I am not Roman Catholic, not even a Christian, but I was educated by Catholic Fathers - yes , celibate , men of the highest integrity.
    No Greed.

    The Eastern Orthodox tradition has a different viewpoint, that's all. Just like the Church of England.

    The Pope has admitted to the errors and blind spots and the very human follies that have occurred.

    But I still find your accusation of Greed of the Church as the reason for the policy on Celibacy , as something to be condemned.

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